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Steel Framed barn anyone?
I just left the enginer's office this am, I am building at 30x60 (30x40 enclosed the rest a dirt floor to park the new tc33d i will buy soon). I am ordering schedule 40 3'id round stock (21 ft lengths) and 3x3x1/4 (20 and 40 ft lengths) angle from berman brothers in jax fl. they will ship it on a flat bed to my house where i cut it to length.
the wife will drive the loader w/my welder,the piece of metal i intend to put in place and myself in the bucket. by welding i save considerable cost in fasteners and time to drill holes etc... a given weld of certian size is equivelent to a certian size bolt in strength, you just have to know the spec's (not hard to find from your local library or welding shop). As someone posted earlier there is someone in alabama who pre fabs truses, am unsure where but will find out. they can make it cheaper than i can. As for the tin i would suggest you use a 22-27 cal. remington nail gun, put the tin in place and simply "nail" your case hardened nail through the tin into the 1/4 in wall thickness i have suggested above. trust me it works, they work great for more than JUST concrete. I intend to drop 3inch pvc pipe in the concrete before pouring (strap it good so it does not move) for electrical and air hoses, heat the end w/ a torch to make a gentle sweep (cheaper than buying and you get a beter sweep to fit your specific need in my opinion). if you intend to put a table in a certian place add pipes spcificly for that area to have air/power to the table, this keeps you from having a million hoses/cords to trip over. hense... a 4x6 table use only a 10-12 ft air hose w/a quick disconnect instead of a 50 ft hose from your air tank across the room. i will drop every extra piece of pvc i can in the floor strategicly w/caps in the end for later use since your shop is like a hot rod it's "never finished". when you decide you need a line in a certian pipe just stuff a ya'llmart bag w/a string attached in one end and a shop vac in the other and pull what ever you intend to use through the pipe w/ the string. make sure you put plenty of "deadmans" in your floor, never know when you will need to "pull" something such as a truck frame, etc... as posted earlier, make sure to follow your local guidelines lest you get into more bs than you want to. sorry it was so long, i got on a roll. hope this helps.
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Steel Framed barn anyone?
ac5zo, you are correct that the major suppliers do offer superior install kits ie.. no fitting pieces. my decisions was based on cost vs ability to do myself. the complete cost for ALL of the steel for the structure will be $1600.00 dollars, a far cry from 15K you mention. my whole shop including pvc,concrete,wiring,doors (made by myself) using rollers off ebay for 10-20 dollars (check out how cheep you can find those for on ebay) steel frame, and tin with enamel coating for less than 7k. thats the best deal around by far, my parents built a 25x35 just like this w/ the same welder and loader and had the whole frame up in 2 8 hour days...not bad for people over 60ys old.
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